And Jeffersonville can have and keep the Republican council candidate, thank you. To see why, read his homophobic message below, and note that to my knowledge, no ordinance remotely touching on any of this is scheduled for consideration by the city's city council -- although perhaps one should.Generally I refrain from commenting on politics in neighboring communities, and in passing along the following odiously toxic missive, I'm neither (a) trying to give Jeffersonville a black eye, because doltish prejudice masquerading as a "Biblical world view" is a contagion spread across all of America, and not confined to one burg or the other, nor (b) giving Walker the attention he obviously craves, given that by his own admission, he isn't getting nearly enough of it in his bid for office.
But I believe in shining a spotlight on bigotry, now and always, come what may. Life is far too short to abide the Win Walkers of the planet without a response, and my position is this: If Win wins, fundamental human rights in Southern Indiana lose. Vote against him, early and often.
Friends,
It’s time for an update on my campaign for Jeff City Council. I have received some positive feedback from previous messages, but not a large volume. Maybe it’s time to take on a more controversial issue.
Most of you have heard of the ‘Fairness Ordinance’ in Louisville, wherein homosexuals are given a special status not available to most of us. In a word, I will resist any such ordinance in Jeffersonville.
Not that I dislike or fear folks of that persuasion, but in fact, my Christian faith calls for me to love them. However, in my view, loving them does not mean approving that lifestyle, which social studies have shown to be harmful. I have decided that I’ll stick to the biblical view of sex and marriage. Of course, that doesn’t mean passing laws against other views, but marriage between a man and a woman is, and should be, codified into law, and it currently is (Defense Of Marriage Act). President Obama, in spite of previous statements to the contrary, is now trying to dismantle DOMA.
Transgender rights are all the rage right now. You don’t see much of this reported in the news, but it’s already happening, as reported at http://www.citizenlink.com/2011/10/11/california-governor-signs-two-transgender-bills/ . Imagine a woman seeing a man in a women’s restroom and reporting it to someone. If the man claimed that he thinks he is a woman, the ‘real’ woman could be sanctioned or prosecuted for ‘discriminating’ against him/her.
In fact, I believe we should be moving toward fewer special status classifications in our country. The seven current HUD classifications for which there is discrimination protection are:
race
color
national origin
religion
sex
familial status
handicap
In my 33 years selling real estate, I found no problem living with these classifications, but think they are becoming less necessary. The first 3 and last 3 are becoming less distinguishable and definable. The 4th one, Religion, is the only one protected in the First Amendment to our country’s constitution. Ironically, religious freedom is lost when special protections are given to gays, lesbians, bisexuals and transgenders (GLBT). If you want to know how this occurs, or have other thoughts on this subject, please contact me.
Also, I need folks to work at the polls for me. If this interests you please call me.
Yours in service,
Win Walker, Jr. - Candidate
Jeffersonville City Council - At Large
win@winwalker.com
www.winwalker.com
812-284-2000
For further background, the following is from Walker's campaign website.
Win is a long-time resident of Jeffersonville, family man and small business owner
For over 30 years, Win has run small businesses and has chaired or served on the boards of many local civic and charitable organizations, such as Leadership Southern Indiana and the Better Business Bureau of Kentuckiana.
My Pledge
Operating from a biblical worldview, Win believes in:
1) Being a good steward of the resources we have
2) Honest, open decision making
3) Smaller, simpler, more efficient government
4) Encouraging Community Involvement
41 comments:
Gross. Ew. I can't believe I had to read that drivel.
As we say in Massachusetts - If you don't look in other people's bedrooms, they won't look in yours.
I agree with Walker, the Federal government has identified the protected classes and I see no reason that homosexuals should be considered a separate, protected class, after all they want to be accepted for who they are not judged based on their sexual preference yet they also want special status based on their homosexuality. Kind of like having it both ways so to speak.
I applaud Win Walker for refusing to cave in to a Louisville type fairness ordinance movement, its unnecessary and typical of the "politically correct" gurus who try to force their will on local government. I wonder what council candidates in New Albany would have the courage to stand up to this nonsense Like Mr Walker.
Bravo Mr Walker! I support his view not on some christian faith because as most of you know I am non-religious, but on the belief that the current federal law on discrimination is more than adequate to cover protected classes, adopting a fairness ordinance will be like opening a pandora's box of other life choices, whats next a fairness ordinance for those who engage in wife swapping or sex with animals?
Or short people.
dont need one for that either and guess what I am ok with it, or billy goat look alikes
Yawn.
whats next a fairness ordinance for those who engage in wife swapping or sex with animals?
I’ve read so much hyperbole from you EW, I can only presume you intended this to be the same instead of a legitimate comparison. Either way, your analogy is disgraceful.
You staying in Florida for a long time?
so is a fairness ordinance based on homosexuality. Once again, THE FEDERAL GOVT. has it covered. Going beyond the federally designated protected classes is excessive and unneccessary.
EW, there is no special treatment. None.
The law isn't about discrimination against only gays. It's about discrimination against anyone for their sexual orientation, no matter whether that's straight, gay or something else. If your gay supervisor fires you because you are straight, you would have recourse with a Fairness ordinance. Otherwise you would have no resource.
Claiming otherwise is like claiming workplace sexual harassment laws are intended only to protect women and women therefore receive special treatment (arguments rejected unanimously by the US Supreme Court).
Going beyond the federally designated protected classes is excessive and unneccessary.
Why can only the Federal Government make protected classes?
The Commonwealth of Kentucky created a non-federal protected class. In Kentucky, you cannot discriminate against smokers. Some how social conservatives have yet to protest against this intrusion on Liberty.
I'm not aware of any provision in the Constitution mandating no additional protected classes. Please explain the legal and/or philosophical argument for why states and their subdivisions cannot create additional protected classes.
if you are fired for reasons not related to job performance, there are statutes allowing for wrongful termination suits and there is an agency called the EEOC, you dont need a fairness ordinance for that.
tell you what danny Boy, lets just create a fairness ordinance for every citizen in every municipality and every township in America since we all have individual differences and preferences. Oh wait a minute I think the constitution has that covered too, "all men are created equal"
if you are fired for reasons not related to job performance, there are statutes allowing for wrongful termination suits and there is an agency called the EEOC, you dont need a fairness ordinance for that.
Factually incorrect, for many reasons.
lets just create a fairness ordinance for every citizen in every municipality
You're moving the goal post. This is not about protecting every situation.
Also, if protection is bad, then I presume you want to see the protections for race, age, religion, gender and disability removed too.
(P.S. The Constitution does not prohibit housing discrimination based on religion by non-government actors. HUD does. The Constitution doesn't.)
youre right there are overpriced lawyers who are always willing to take on whiners cases for being fired
I see no reason that homosexuals should be considered a separate, protected class, after all they want to be accepted for who they are not judged based on their sexual preference yet they also want special status based on their homosexuality
Does wanting a race based anti-discrimination statute mean you want to be judged based on race? No.
now you are moving the goal post i said the identified protected classes are adequate, where did I say remove any of them? You like to twist words
dont worry I am almost certain your council candidate favorite Greg Phipps will try to push one of these through if he gets elected, he has alluded to it in a Tribune letter to the editor earlier this year
"Oh wait a minute I think the constitution has that covered too, "all men are created equal"
I don't think you'd find that phrase in the US Constitution, it was used in the Declaration of Independence.
Not moving the goal post. I'm trying to understand your "logic" by asking for a consistent stance from you. So far your arguments do not add up.
worded in the declaration and embodied in the constitution, equal protection clause
EW, start from the top. What philosophical and/or legal argument says a Southern Indiana town cannot or should not pass a fairness ordinance?
For the record, the equal protection clause says that state laws must be applied equally to everyone. That is very different than saying all men are created equal.
EW wrote:
Bravo Mr Walker! I support his view not on some christian faith because as most of you know I am non-religious ...
This strongly implies that EW should have the same concerns as mine, which is Win Walker mistakenly advocating that we should use one believer's interpretation of one religious book and magically produce laws suitable for 300 million people, many of whom reject Walker's reading.
That EW's personal agnosticism/atheism does not motivate him to be concerned with Walker's improper injection of superstition into real-world rulesmaking says quite a lot about EW's and WW's similarities: A propensity for grandstanding when all else has failed, and continues to fail.
Tim, you coulda been a contender. Too bad those bad angels of your nature always get the best of you.
Under federal and Indiana law, employers are free to discriminate against you and fire you due to sexual orientation. Neither Indiana statutes involving wrongful termination nor federal law (or the EEOC) will do you any good.
A fairness ordinance would provide a legal remedy not available at the state and national level.
Indiana is an employed at will state, an employer could fire you based on they dont like that you dont say good morning to everybody. What's your point Bookseller?
I stand by my opinion that a fairness ordinance is not necessary because the intent of creating a special class of anti discrimination laws is to protect a class of individuals who have no control over their situation such as age, gender, race etc. Sexual preference is a behavioral choice, one is not born gay or heterosexual
Adopting a fairness ordinance opens up a limitless # of social/behavioral choices and their proponents who would also seek a fairness ordinance. The result would be excessive regulation and countless frivolous lawsuits.
I contend that existing laws are in place to regulate discrimination and rather than politicize the issue as a gay rights issue address the real problem by more vigorous enforcement of existing law.
corection on last post, Imeant to address brandon not bookseller
E.Warrior. For real dude, come out of the closet. It's ok, times have changed. If u want to respond to me, feel free to blog as well as email me..no mask here FLORIDA "boi".
PaulKigerHomes@gmail.com
Paul, I think I love you. *grin*
It's OK, Tim. I endorse my son Brandon's analysis.
I dont appreciate the name calling Kriger. I attempted to make a point regarding a fairness ordinance on philosophical grounds and you want to act juvenile and call me "boi" and tell me its ok to come out of the closet?
FYI I am happily married to a woman! Now why dont you get back to what you do best and sell homes to people who probably shouldnt be buying.
It's ok you can come out of the closet, realtor vulture
Let's stick to issues, lest we devolve into Kitchen Table territory.
EW, I'd really like to know why, as a non-Christian, this injection of theology does not offend you. You seem to be saying you agree with Win, but not for the reasons he cites (i.e., religious dogma). Can we agree religion has no place in any of this?
yes we can agree on that point 100%
As a person who is a life long religious person and does the 'religion thing' professionally, I have never felt my freedom of religion was ever in jeopardy by treating all people with dignity and respect. This man's statement is a disgrace pure and simple.
my last comment has not posted?
my MAC must have been messed up this afternoon..
E.W QUOTE: "I dont appreciate the name calling Kriger. I attempted to make a point regarding a fairness ordinance on philosophical grounds"..
Philosophical grounds- I wish your comments supported your philosophical grounds theory...P.Kiger
E.W "FYI I am happily married to a woman! Now why dont you get back to what you do best and sell homes to people who probably shouldnt be buying.It's ok you can come out of the closet, realtor vulture"...
thanks for the compliment "get back to what you do best and sell homes"....7 closings in October if you are keeping track...If you keep up with the Real Estate market, you would know that your comment regarding buyers that shouldn't be buying is false. Let me know if you want info. on the buying process/mortgage approval 1,2,3 steps...., etc..
E.W- "realtor vulture"......?? anytime you want to compare community contributions, non-profit support, neighborhood participation, $$$ checks that I write, & volunteer hours----lets line it up...
1 last point to E.W..I don't just sell homes in SO.IN & Lville Metro, I sell a lifestyle(s). (i'm sure you will have fun with that one)..
"Embracing the Upside" P.K
talk soon. I'm off to go hunting :)
Paul, I receive e-notifications of all posts, and yours came through to me. This is not the first time we've had an issue like this. Thanks for reposting.
Don't believe that I've ever met Paul. Seems to be a stand up human being.
"Operating from a biblical worldview, Win believes in"...
This should have been at the beginning of the article, I could have saved myself reading the drivel that followed.
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