Remember: Let's protest tolls, heckle 1Si, and drink beer at NAC's 6th annual Harvest Homecoming Parade Gala at 1117 ESSNA -- this Saturday, Oct. 2.
Pete at DRC says: "Plenty of YES signs available, and I'll print 12x18 NO TOLLS posters for anyone who wants them."
Both yes and no ... I like that. What shall we transmit to Pete? There needs to be coordination of our uncoordinated effort on Saturday as we propagandize the parade route!
Ideas? Slogans?
Hmm, wonder if I still have the "No Blood for 1Si" sign somewhere ...
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Hey, get one of those eye-catching inflated 3 story advertising thingies like they sport at Classic Furniture Rip-Off. Glue on some freaky halloween hair - it's Trolls against Tolls! Actually, now that I think of it, a bunch of those things fashioned into giant 'dancing" trolls under the Sherman Minton Bridge would be an awesomely funny protest.
I will build I toll booth if you would like. I also thought about a troll costume.
Is Jerry Finn invited this time?
Yeah, invite him and tell him that he would be safe from me. Have to work Saturday.
Jerry's absolutely invited.
Horseshoe Foundation's paying for the White Castles.
It's the Revolving Slider Fund.
Why not make it a Tea Party protest against government overspending?
Roger, you can come dressed like Sarah Palin
Nah. Nutjobs are for the squirrels.
What is the difference between your protest and Tea Party protest?
Essentially you're protesting against the same concept; only your protest is on a smaller scale.
"Indeed, there is something infantile in the belief of the constitution-worshippers that the complex political arguments of today can be settled by simple fidelity to a document written in the 18th century." -- The Economist
That.
Got my first Gibson mailer and saw one of his commercials tonight.
I was hoping to see a little more discussion on NAC about the race.
I figured most readers here would have a lot to say, since seeing so many comments about the lack of code enforcement and relating issues.
Sarah Palin, Glen Beck and Rand Paul did not invent protesting. Actually they are not nearly as good at is others have been. So they get a few minutes on some news programs, what have they accomplished?
Twenty years ago a Texas billionaire had the exact same argument and the only person that was ever elected under the "Reform" Party was Jesse "THE BODY" Ventura as Governor of the Great state of Minnesota.
Is that what the Tea Party is?
I see it more as a libertarian party.
Is the Constitution Party still around?
I don't see anything wrong with interrupting the constitution in the context it was written. To me it provides the necessary foundation that law must have to be taken seriously. Even Justice Steven has said this recently in interviews.
They are "outsiders" who don't like the direction the country is going.
Call them what you want, they will be of very little consequence in the long run.
Personally I think they are peaking too early. They probably will run out of steam before 2012.
I agree, Matt, the Tea Party hasn't been as entertaining as other protesters. My favorite are the crazy leftist that destroy downtowns. I think there were a few today in Portugal and Spain.
I am looking forward to the up coming election to find out exactly what impact this libertarian group will have.
If I recall correctly, more people voted Democrat in the Kentucky Primary’s then the Republican vote counted together. I have heard the polling is getting tighter.
How come there hasn't been anything on NAC about the Louisville Mayoral race.
The only thing I see so far is Jeff's praising Jackie Green and he doesn't have a chance.
Isn't Fisher more supportive of tolling than Heiner?
It took about 5 minutes to research and find out that many Libertarians dislike the Tea Party movement as much as they dislike the other two parties.
Libertarians are socially liberal and fiscal conservatives by definition. The Tea Baggers have become the pawn of the religious right..just look at the leaders. Beck, Palin, O'Donnell and others.
Here's a quote from the Texas Libertarian Party Chairman...
"When the Libertarian Party of Illinois lit the match that became the tea party bonfire, the idea was to promote the principles of the Libertarian Party in protest of continued growth of government, bailouts, a nightmarish taxation system and other policies promoted by Republicans and Democrats.
It now has evolved to include protesters on immigration policy, gay marriage, foreign policy, abortion and all manner of policies that do not match those of the Libertarian Party. We also see angry signs depicting President Barack Obama as a Nazi."
Calling the Tea Baggers "libertarian" would probably be considered an insult to true libertarians.
There are even stories where Tea Baggers are asking Libertarian candidates to quit races so their candidate won't be hurt by people who want to vote libertarian.
Here's another quote I found from another writer...
" The Tea Party has transformed from a libertarian gathering to promote less intrusive government and celebrate our freedoms to a neo-con group promoting War in Iran, criticizing immigrants and diversity, and persecuting those with different religious views."
Sounds like there's a stark difference to me.
That's nice Andy; I can Google things too, that says otherwise.
I don't know if I can say that fundamental libertarians are socially liberal, as much as they don't want government involvement in their daily social lives. Are fundamentalist libertarians more socially liberal than Christian social conservatives? It seems to appear that way, but I know local libertarian candidates that wouldn't meet that description.
Most people would agree that the Tea Party has no central cohesive force where on person or group is speaking for it. What these groups do share in common is a driving economic libertarian agenda.
Coincidentally Michael Bloomberg was on Letterman last night and he had the same feeling that I do:
“People are annoyed. People are frustrated, but anger is not a strategy,” “They have to have real ideas. They have to have ideas that are practical.”
What a better example to show the ignorance of a toll than to have one on a parade route. Let everyone see on their own little scale the problems it would create. Most of the people in the area have NEVER lived in an area that had toll roads, so they don't even understand what's being said.
I'm guessing laws have changed, but it used to be a federal law that you could not put a toll on a road (the 64 bridge) unless the toll fees were paying for the construction on that road.
Maryland was busted in the 90's when it was discovered that the tolls for bay tunnel had paid for the project 4 years before the tolls were taken down.
The state became so used to the income being generated, they just kept the tolls up until the Washington Post (aka a real newspaper) busted them.
stop the parade. make them pay a toll. civil disobedience at it's best.
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