Following is the opinion of the senior editor. You’re perfectly free to disagree.
On Labor Day, comfortably ahead of the mayor’s press conference on Tuesday, I received this missive from the ever mysterious Even Deeper Throat. In it, our periodic informant’s reference to the “guy on the stool” is to an article I wrote on Sunday: Anger management? No, thanks. I’ve had all the placid acceptance I can stomach.
The guy on the stool does not need clout. John Mattingly will have the mayor veto it---not a paid lobby--maybe not professional--but effective. Either way doug loses---the veto causes him to be raked over the coals in the paper and makes him (i think ) a one and done mayor---this time around. If he doesn't veto --- the envelopes stop coming----I am not kidding. Of course there are some slumlords with millions--believe it or not----so the envelopes could still be there.
From the start of the city council’s Greatly Unnecessary Smoking Debate of ‘08, the stench of small town, small time, small pond politics emanated from the usual suspects, corridors and back alleys.
You should know that I don’t doubt the sincerity of two and maybe three of the ordinance’s backers, who seem genuinely to believe that the purpose of the legislation was to protect workers.
But as much as I’d love to see a newly coherent Jeff Gahan emerge and fulfill his potential for leadership, I believe that neither he nor his current sidewardly mobile swingman, Dan Coffey, can be counted among this group of true believers, and for me, Even Deeper Throat’s testimony is the clincher.
My take is this. Stuck at 5-4, and absent a sixth veto-proof vote, the impetus of the ordinance abruptly shifted from science and health, where it was only tenuously rooted from the beginning, to a somewhat crass and ill-disguised resolve to use the mayor’s expected veto to future political advantage. Why else would John Mattingly's name be mentioned if not as an egregious anti-England slight?
Soon enough, Gahan will feel the pain when Coffey deploys his antediluvian tactics to pull one or another rug out from under the president’s feet. I’m told that both entertain notions of occupying the mayor’s office. Fortunately for New Albany, Coffey is as unqualified for the job as the flower urn that sits atop the mantel shelf.
Gahan? A huge "maybe" at this juncture. At least I used to think so. If only we knew who he is and what he stands for … and I, for one, no longer will hold my breath awaiting the press release.
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Another useful function of the smoking ordinance apart from its pseudo-crocodilian concern for the private employment decisions of adult bar staff has proven to be the exploitation of fissures in what by New Albany’s standards passes for a “progressive” movement. I know that I’ve played a part in this. In rhetorical terms, I called it like I saw it, and I take no pleasure in being proved right in privately predicting this aftereffect, hence a steamy and simmering frustration with pretty much all involved in pushing this smoking angle to the exclusion of everything else.
To be succinct: How can such miniscule political personages generate such catastrophes – and why do we permit them to do so?
All along, from the beginning of this legislative travesty, wherein a seemingly innocuous city council cadre has taken the legitimate issues of smoking and workplace safety and subordinated them to the idiocy of New Albany politics as usual – making us think it was about one thing, when of course, it was about something else entirely – I kept reminding readers that this is precisely the sort of thing that divides, not unites.
And, scandalously neglected for no other reason than an expedience – heck, those lobbyists do all the heavy lifting and we don’t even have to pay ‘em! – afforded by contracted professionals from afar, all of New Albany’s truly important issues remain, orphaned, unaddressed, and ignored, like always, so that time servers will be better positioned for their next race for office.
Sadly, it’s all symptomatic of this ridiculous, polarized society that we’ve chosen to encourage and inhabit. It’s exacerbated by the Tim Fillers of the planet, people from elsewhere with loyalty only to paychecks from still further away, and to obtain their favors for a millisecond, we see our own local small timers posturing for advantage in this wretchedly inbred political water.
Only now, after the veto, do we hear council members confide that yes, there’s much work to be done, and no, time needn’t be wasted by returning to the smoking battlefield.
No kidding? Could any of you have been bothered to grasp this point before the carnage started?
Ah, yes, but such civic foresight would have negated the sought-after political gamesmanship. Sorry, all you well meaning workplace safety advocates. Science doesn’t stand in a chance in a place like New Albany. Straight up and unalloyed, and from the legislative perspective, what we’ve just witnessed was inelegant, artless, poorly managed, badly timed, but necessary for one reason and one reason only: Serving the personal political interests of the few at the expense of the many.
That’s New Albanianism at its enduring lowest. That's Coffeyalbany. Next time, you’ll know going in.
You’ll also know more about the muddying of scrums.
Good luck … and don’t forget your flak jackets.
Guess it's on to the real priorities of New Albany.
ReplyDeleteSure will nice to have these debated without the influence of "them" outside experts. Like urban planners, city redevelopment experts, housing surveys, one way street experts, etc. You know, them people who get paid to know about such things.
If those particular folks start spewing undocumented, illogical crap for which they are wholly unqualified, they should be panned, too.
ReplyDeleteIt's not the source. It's the crap.
Mr. Filler made statements of fact that would require firsthand, local knowledge. He doesn't have any. He knows he doesn't have any. But he chose to spew it anyway. And it was dead wrong. That's crap.
And if any of them begin a debate by claiming that what they're about to say is absolutely undebatable, that'll be crap, too.
ReplyDeleteHoosier,
ReplyDeleteI would venture to say there is huge difference between a one agenda lobbyist and a consultant.
And we need consultants from other cities facing similar problems as how they had dealt with the issues, and what what road bumps they had hit along the way.
Unsolicited lobbyists decending on the city to promote their agenda in a town they more than likely will never set foot in again, or even think about again once they have their way are quite different than bringing in folks with real world experience, and potential solutions to the myriad of problems facing this city.
My point is, nobody stayed on POINT.
ReplyDeleteArguments about who, why and when. Whatever happened to the "what"--SHS and the employee?
I hate to quote Mr. Price but 98% of the arguments pro and con, were nothing but pure FBS.
You don't like to eat and/or drink in an establishment that has smoking(limited or not), then don't go. I do believe in market forces in this instance.
Are they going to ban big mac and whoppers next? no employee is forced to eat the food but they have to breathe the air.
It's a private business and I should be able to do what I want. do I even need to comment on this one?
It will hurt my business. totally irrelevant IF SHS is that harmful to the employee. Which makes many of Mr. Hiller's comments totally irrelevant.(of mr hiller--When you are allowed one minute, how do lose track of time to the tune of approx. 10 minutes?)
Christopher,
ReplyDeleteone person's paid lobbyist is another's paid consultant.
When national anti-tobacco lobbyist groups posts the names and personal contact information for our elected officials and encourages people from all across the country to call and demand "a smoke free city" there is a distinct line between consulting and lobbying.
ReplyDelete( http://ga1.org/anr_actionnetwork/notice-description.tcl?newsletter_id=9548758 )
Due to my job, I am a "member" of these organizations, and I know how they work and think, and I can assure you, 95% of them do not give a damn about the poor underpaid voiceless workers, the issue represents another point to defend their grants and apply for more money next fiscal year.
They will spend tens of thousands of dollars in propaganda swag, but will complain to high heaven when they have to cough up (bad pun) $75 for 3 months worth of smoking cessassion medication.
A consultant will be willing to show both sides of an issue, the good and the bad, and will work to help the city make a taylored fit to address our particular situation. Not the do it our way or be vilified in the news approach as employed by many who we had the distinct pleasure of sharing the council chambers with.
Christopher,
ReplyDeleteWould you kindly remind me of one consultant(paid or otherwise)who spoke at the meetings? Using your definition. I'm not an idiot(contrary to popular opinion). I understand how such things work. I, too, have a wife who is smart. She did 6 years of college in 4 1/4years. She's a Social Worker.
Out of town or not(by the way, are you sure the OOT's were not invited)most of the people who spoke for or against the ordinance had an economic interest. The people who are paid to fight smoking and the people whose economic status would be affected. Neither side was impartial.
Bluegill & NA,
I would feel a little less "strained" if some of my friends here would have been fairer in their damnation's. Being from OOT does not automatically make you wrong, just as being from NA doesn't automatically make you right(I don't need to cite examples, do I?)
Where was the damnation of some of the points from those who opposed the ordinance? Should not they be "panned" also?
And, I still have not had one person answer THE question:
Is exposure to SHS a sufficient hazard to employees that smoking needs to be banned in places of employment?
As I stated long ago, Yes--aye, No-Nay, and Don't know--Nay. Everything else is FBS. No one has convinced me otherwise. Not even close.
Where was the damnation of some of the points from those who opposed the ordinance? Should not they be "panned" also?
ReplyDeleteIAH,
I think if you review my comments throughout the debate, you'll see that a large majority of them were aimed at both sides due to faulty arguments.
A recent example, related to both your points:
Not a single person on either side of this debate, hired gun or otherwise, has shown a mastery of the science involved beyond suggesting that their particular source of information is unimpeachable.
Mr. Filler got special attention from me because of his own condescension and the favoritism Gahan showed him.
Hoosier,
ReplyDeleteIf I seemed to insuate that you're an idiot by my response, I assure you that was not my intentions and offer an sincere apology if you felt that way.
When Referring to the "paid" lobbyists, those references were made regarding the members of the Clark County Tobacco Cessation coalition, Floyd County Coalition, Mr. Filler, Members of the A.N.R. etc.
But, in the end its all politics, and nothing else.
Christopher,
ReplyDeleteNo harm, no foul. I didn't think so but just in case...(I know how "carefully" SW's sometimes choose their words after being married to one for 28 years) ;-)
Bluegill,
ReplyDeleteI STAND CORRECTED. I WAS WRONG, WRONG, WRONG.
Went back over the last few weeks of posts and then remembered that I had missed a whole week's worth while I was on vacation. You are correct. Pretty much damning both sides.
I do sincerely apologize.
So, now that means it's all NA's fault!!
No worries.
ReplyDeleteThe reason you haven't gotten an answer to your oft repeated question is because there isn't one. If either side would've just admitted that, it would've saved me a whole lot of typing.
To attempt to tackle hoosiers question, there has to be some answers to other questions first.
ReplyDeleteWhen tabulating the number of injuries/illnesses attributed to SHS, have the clinical studies taken into consideration the various other pneumotoxins and carcinogens we encounter on a daily basis?
Prime example, Radon gas is stated to cause up to 21,000 cases of lung cancer every year in the U.S., in NON-SMOKERS. Alpha-1 Antitrypsin Deficiency (A-1ATD) an genetic syndrome effecting as many as 1 of every 1000 people in the US predisposes a person to emphysema. Studies have proven exposure to particulate matters found in air pollution can be attributed to 1000's of deaths every year from heart attacks and strokes. "roach dust" )pieces of dead roaches and roach feces causes thousands upon thousands of asthma attacks every year. The list goes on and on...
So how do they differentiate the true causes of the illnesses that are reportedly related to exposure to SHS vs. those that are actually related to literally hundreds if not thousands of potential other harmful compounds we breathe, drink, eat, and get covered in everyday of our lives?
(I do not doubt SHS is potentially harmful, I question the validity of the numbers they present.)
I might hazard a answer to your questions about the dangers of SHS, christopher d. The biostatisticians and epidemiologists do studies with groups of people who are as similar to each other as possible, except the one group is exposed to SHS at work, and the other group is not. Individual studies often give weak or not very conclusive results. But the biostatisticians can combine many studies to make one large study through a technique known as meta-analysis. (The larger the sample size, the stronger the conclusions of a study.) Consistently, they arrive at relative risks for various diseases (heart disease, lung cancer) for persons exposed to SHS of about 1.3, meaning you have a 30% higher risk of these diseases if you are exposed to SHS at work. (This compares with relative risks in the range of 15 to 23 for diseases like lung cancer, in persons who actually smoke.) All of this is discussed in detail in the 2006 Surgeon General's report, which focused on SHS; this is easy to find on the cdc.gov website.
ReplyDeleteNow, as far as the believability of all of this, I would recommend trusting the epidemiologists and the biostatisticians, who are highly competent and conscientious people. It helps to bear in mind that their job is complicated by the known fact that the tobacco companies sponsor research studies designed to reach the conclusion that SHS is not really harmful. (See my posting on an earlier thread in response to a post by retiree, who quoted such a study publicized by a tobacco front group, the Heartland Institute.)
Christopher & William,
ReplyDeleteNow that's what I'm talkin' about.
Thanks.