Monday, June 27, 2005

To Ms. Oates: You are entitled to your own opinions, but not to your own facts.

Regular readers will recall NA Confidential’s running dialogue with fellow New Albanian citizen Laura Oates, who recently was appointed to the J. Goebbels Chair of Public Policy Debate at Bazooka Joe University in Oz.

Touchingly concerned that differing opinions might disturb the bucolic equilibrium of the civic-minded “squeeze cooperation out of my cold, dead hands, pointy head” denizens frequenting her blog -- a forum laughably purporting to espouse free speech so long as it doesn’t nudge past the Tribune’s editorial standards in reading comprehension or embrace a viewpoint that doesn’t jibe with the gospel according to anonymous “little people” (their choice of identity, not ours) -- Ms. Oates also recently banned NA Confidential and “Bluegill” from sullying the corridors of her daily exercise in anti-intellectual mob empowerment.

Consequently, when she and her bedazzled fans make preposterous claims and subject the reading community to the tender crayon mercies of Luddite logic (2 + 2 = whatever I feel like -- today), there is no way to respond or to further the discussion without expending precious bandwidth here at NAC.

And this we’re prepared to do yet again, at least until the “little people” decide to take the unprecedented step of reading an American history book and considering the inconvenient topic of censorship – something apparently not broached in Sociology 101.

Today at Speak Out, Lout (NA), Ms. Oates asks:

LO:
Infrastructure or swimming pools? The City Council has planned another “workshop” session on the Scribner Place project that will be held Tuesday night, June 28th, at 6:30PM on the 3rd floor. However, no public comments or questions will be allowed. Great way to get some support back under this thing, don’t let anybody ask questions and don’t listen to anybody’s opinion.


NAC:
Currently there are more opinions about Scribner Place than there were cicadas last summer.

It has been at least three years since Regina Overton introduced the plan. How much time is necessary for the “little people” to become familiar with it and to formulate an opinion? Haven’t most done so already? Ms. Oates’ blog is all agog with the graffiti of anti-Scribner Place “concern taxpayers” and “new albany residents,” many of which have attended city council meetings regularly for years.

Did they not catch occasional references to Scribner Place in all that time? Haven’t they spoken against it during the public communications segment? Aren’t they taking turns frightening their “little” friends by creating vast conspiracies, and then fawning over knights in aluminum armor like Dan Coffey, who will deliver them from the future?

LO:
But, why should we be surprised? This thing is going to happen one way or another, and those who don’t like it better just shut up and keep their opinions to themselves. Most are just plain too stupid to know what’s good for them anyway. Right Baylor?


NAC:
On several occasions lately, Ms. Oates actually has reminded her readers that Scribner Place is inevitable, with only the manner of funding remaining to be shaped by public participation, which she obviously hopes to influence, or would not be blogging in the manner she has. So, it’s fairly obvious that no one is asking the community’s troglodytes to shut up.

Rather, we’re asking them to make sense. With respect to opinions, NA Confidential has advocated a consistent policy throughout its existence:

You are entitled to your own opinions, but not to your own facts. *


Laura consistently has confused the two – opinion and fact -- during her stewardship of the “little people’s” blog, often indulging in the ham-fisted and non-discerning censorship of facts and factual discussions, while promoting flatulence as fact, and maintaining in a yet-to-be-determined fashion that the more downtrodden one is, the less that rules of civilized discourse and etiquette apply.

They’ll turn on you, Ms. Oates. Anyone seen our old chum Robespierre lately?

By the way, you’ll notice that consistently throughout the history of our debates, NA Confidential has referred to Laura Oates as “Laura” or “Ms. Oates,” opting for the more formal usage today because of her increasingly strident and intemperate treatment of my own given name.

LO:
Real smarts would tell you that since it's the ONLY plan, well then it must be a good plan.


NAC:
After much deliberation, we choose to regard this sentence as intended in the satirical sense. Since it fails satirically, might it be regarded as a miscarriage of rhetoric?

Might this handy designation be extended to the whole of Speak Out, Lout (NA)?

LO:
We have all been witness to the rantings of the insolents who support the proposed city investment into the YMCA-Scribner Place project, and we are all well aware of the nasty, rude remarks they have hurled at those who do not support their point of view. Rather than discussing the issue with some measure of decorum, they resort to name calling, insults on intelligence, and accusations of political agendas.


NAC:
Insolent? Who’s telling whom to shut up?

Time and time again, the “little people” have used Ms. Oates’ forum to vociferously demand the “agenda” of NA Confidential, Volunteer Hoosier and other progressive advocates in the city, and these entities have responded in essence that their agenda is progress, plain and simple.

Some of you are aware that when our friend Bluegill carefully and methodically responded to the opinions on Ms. Oates’ blog, and did so factually and utterly without “nasty” or “rude” hyperbole, his reward for doing so was being asked to leave, as his thoughts were deemed just too long-winded for the opinionated “little people” to be expected to digest.

It’d be like a person stepping into the cockpit of a plane and demanding to fly it, not because he has any factual proof that he knows how to fly an airplane (license, documentation, training), but because he “believes” he can do it (his opinion), and when you offer to teach him, he won’t listen because that’d take too long – and he’s in a great rush to go nowhere in particular.

LO:
The folks who do not agree with the city’s involvement in the project have been accused of an attitude of “no progress at any price”. I assert it is quite the contrary. The pro-spending crowd doesn’t seem to hear the pleas to invest in improvements and repairs to the inner city rather than plunking down huge amounts of money and resources into a venture that could potentially fail. Now, before anybody starts jumping up and down on that statement let me clarify. I personally would love to see a development such as the YMCA come to town, and I truly hope it will be successful. I am not against the YMCA development.

NAC:
Advocates of progress take the view that public financing should be utilized in order to do as much as possible with the resources we have at hand, whether by low-risk expenditures in infrastructure development that will help broaden the tax base and revitalize downtown, bringing needed jobs to the city and priming the pump for further growth, or by continuing the work of repairing and improving the existing infrastructure. There is no reason why these two strategies cannot be pursued at the same time – other than a lack of will and the inherent defeatism of a minority of the city’s citizenry.

LO:
However, I do not believe that New Albany city government is in any position to be involved in the commercial end of this endeavor. Particularly when there are so many problems with our infrastructure, and a desperate need for code enforcement, along with many other issues that affect quality of life here. Speaking of code enforcement, since the Council passed the approval of the position and salary, we have made no apparent progress towards implementing the job. Are we still getting one? Or are we being told there’s no money?

NAC:
There is no disagreement with respect to ordinance enforcement, although NA Confidential would like to see its scope broadened beyond the bare minimum proposed earlier this year.

LO: As for the Coffey Plan, I’m not so sure his plan would back this thing up all the way to zero’s. The city has already purchased land, and is in process of clearance and environmental cleanup. I believe that is a $1.5 million cost that has already been undertaken. The city plans to lease the cleared and cleaned land to the YMCA for $1 per year. One hell of a deal that would help any business get off to a good start (any hint of how to spawn more businesses?).

NAC:
Entrepreneurs spawn businesses. They do so by taking stock of the requirements necessary for their chosen field of expertise, and then seeking to utilize those factors in a business plan. Cities everywhere attempt to influence entrepreneurs by establishing favorable conditions for business operation, which today involves more than tax abatements and giveaways. It involves making a city a place where the workers of the future want to live, and if the workers of the future live in a city, the jobs created by entrepreneurs will in part come to the city because the workers' skills and outlook are the valued commodities in today’s economy.

Quite simply, the YMCA’s target demographic is roundly and loudly detested by the people who seek to kill Scribner Place – and they make no effort to hide this fact.

But more significantly, the YMCA’s target demographic is precisely the one of most immediate appeal to the entrepreneurs Ms. Oates seeks, and with a more crucial long-term applicability to what we need to expand this zone into more residents downtown, which she also says she wants. One cannot simultaneously decry the lack of entrepreneurs, and attack the means of attracting them. We suggest that Ms. Oates take a long, hard look at Richard Florida’s body of work, among others. It’s obvious that she hasn’t thus far.

LO:
Now, the Redevelopment Commission has received its first $1 million payment from Caesar’s, and I’m not sure if those funds were used towards this aspect of the project or not. If so, that would mean our current investment is nominal. I suggest we leave it that way.


NAC:
A new and exciting motto (i.e., pathetic excuse) now emerges: “No investment at any price.” It has a nice ring to it. Give Councilman Coffey two more years, and he’ll even find it in a dictionary.

But he doesn’t read. Too bad for his constituents, and for the remainder of the city, which he’ll willingly hold hostage to his own excessive vanity ... if we permit it.

LO:
One question that is nagging at me is… if there is going to be a bond issue, how can the City Council vote on issuing bonds that will be tied to a Grant designated to the Redevelopment Commission and the YMCA, but not to the City? I'm still digging for more on the original plans, and will hopefully have more details later this week.


NAC:
It might be because the Redevelopment Commission is the city, but perhaps this is too simple a concept to build another conspiracy theory around.

A final thought: This may come as a surprise to many, but there is no doubting Ms. Oates’ sincerity. It is her methodology that is suspect, and her willingness to foment cultural warfare that is regrettable.

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* Thanks to the Courier-Journal for reminding me of that one.

6 comments:

parish said...

Well said.

Joe said...

The hoots continue. I personally think some of us should chip in and buy Laura Oates a nice belated Mothers' Day gift.
I refer to some of the Floyd Turbo's she has provided a nest for.

The belly laughs are now more than one a day.

Wheelhouse said...

Re: Laura Oates June 27 posting of "Infrastructure or Swimming Pools?"

Let’s analyze this rant line by line without using too fine-toothed a comb on the grammatical deficiencies.

TrogBlog: The City Council has planned another “workshop” session on the Scribner Place project that will be held Tuesday night, June 28th, at 6:30PM on the 3rd floor. However, no public comments or questions will be allowed. Great way to get some support back under this thing, don’t let anybody ask questions and don’t listen to anybody’s opinion.

Clearly, Laura Oates is learning the tropes and techniques of “opinion journalism.” Though she insists she’s a “Democrat,” Laura uses the Ann Coulter/Karl Rove method of approved GOP propaganda. This method assumes rabid agreement on the part of readers who will not question the party line, no matter how discordant it is with reality.

Let’s call it the circle-jerk method.

Oates is no neophyte. Whatever her shortcomings, Laura Oates is a former, and possibly future candidate for city office. She has spoken to council in public meetings during the time set aside for communications from the public. She knows full well that work sessions aren’t action sessions.

Here, in her first paragraph, she equates long-standing and perfectly ordinary procedures with some kind of extraordinary “gag” rule being applied to Scribner Place opponents. At once, and in an exceedingly artless way, she creates a straw man. She assumes no one will question her implication that special tactics are being used to stifle her and her allies.

That New Albany has not adopted the views of Laura Oates and the four others who agree with her is treated as if it were an assault on the four freedoms. By claiming victimhood, Oates is appealing to the resentment so in evidence by those who sing her praises. By reinforcing that resentment with her words, Laura brings her followers a frisson of pleasure, which prompts another round of praise, ad nauseam, until all involved achieve frenzied climax, but thankfully, without fear of reproduction.

For Laura to pretend that a work session is some kind of totalitarian and undemocratic exercise is the height of demagoguery.

What’s more, anyone who wishes to communicate with council members individually is presumably able to do so by mail, by phone, or in person.

Methinks Laura simply wants a soapbox and simply can’t wait until July 7.

TrogBlog: But, why should we be surprised? This thing is going to happen one way or another, and those who don’t like it better just shut up and keep their opinions to themselves. Most are just plain too stupid to know what’s good for them anyway. Right Baylor?

Here the Rove-ian viciousness begins to spin out of control. Mr. Baylor may have a stiletto appended to his keyboard, but I’m unaware of his calling anyone stupid. Misguided, ignorant, and venal? Sure. Stupid? No.

If engaging Mr. Baylor in argument makes someone “feel” stupid, that can hardly be attributed to Mr. Baylor. If Mr. Baylor’s vocabulary appeals to nuance and fine shadings, and that makes someone “feel” stupid, that cannot be laid on Mr. Baylor’s doorstep.

As for telling anyone to “shut up,” the hypocrisy on display in Ms. Oates posting is beyond compare. The Web site she oversees has become notorious for it’s deletions. Who, in fact, is telling who to “shut up?”

TrogBlog: Real smarts would tell you that since it's the ONLY plan, well then it must be a good plan.

I’m certain Laura feels justified in saying this, but she has never addressed the argument she finds so distasteful: No one opposed to Scribner Place has yet to offer an alternative other than “No!” It must be said, again, that “No” is not a plan.

TrogBlog: We have all been witness to the rantings of the insolents who support the proposed city investment into the YMCA-Scribner Place project, and we are all well aware of the nasty, rude remarks they have hurled at those who do not support their point of view.

Inadvertently I’m sure, Laura has coined a word I’ve never seen, but coming from someone more orthographically adept, or who knew the difference between a noun and an adjective, it could be a gem. “Insolents” to describe a group of persons is, for sure, a unique coinage, and to give her credit, slightly witty. And yet, it attempts to demean by proposing that Laura’s opponents are unruly children disobeying momma. Hey Laura, you ain’t my mama. You have no authority over me and I have no duty to you. I can’t be insolent toward you as I owe you know duty of obedience. A child of your loins can be insolent toward you. An employee can be insolent toward you. Not me, and not anyone who refuses to pledge loyalty to you and your cause. Calling someone a liar isn’t nasty or rude. It’s called reasoned debate and I’ll bet you would recognize it if you ever left your echo chamber. You are a liar. And so are your pals liars. Truth hurts, huh?

TrogBlog: Rather than discussing the issue with some measure of decorum, they resort to name calling, insults on intelligence, and accusations of political agendas.

The folks who do not agree with the city’s involvement in the project have been accused of an attitude of “no progress at any price”. I assert it is quite the contrary.


Any accusation of “political agendas” stems from the absolute bafflement that comes from being completely unable to discover any other reason someone would repeatedly lie, even after being caught at it. Your entire enterprise is an insult to people’s intelligence because you and your pals assume your readers are sheep and will not discover the truth. If you are awkwardly trying to say some blogger has accused someone of being of low intelligence, I challenge you to point out that posting. In fact, the accusation of “political agendas” is the polite way of saying “I assume the writer is intelligent, so the poster must have a hidden agenda to say something so barefaced and easy to refute.” That is a distinction you continually fail to make.

TrogBlog: The pro-spending crowd doesn’t seem to hear the pleas to invest in improvements and repairs to the inner city rather than plunking down huge amounts of money and resources into a venture that could potentially fail.

Now, before anybody starts jumping up and down on that statement let me clarify. I personally would love to see a development such as the YMCA come to town, and I truly hope it will be successful. I am not against the YMCA development.


It’s pro investment, again, Ms. Oates. Build the tax base so we can build the infrastructure. Scribner Place IS infrastructure. Just because you can’t swim and would rather shop in a strip mall and commute across town to draw your salary from the taxpayers doesn’t make investment in downtown some kind of selfish and horribly risky indulgence. It is forward-looking realism, something you once seemed to have but have sacrificed to maintain what you must think is “popularity.” Tell me you aren’t embarrassed to be the facilitator of such a derogatory and non-credible organ? Your pet project may or may not be deserving of investment OR spending, but without a tax base, it will always be scheduled for “next year.” Did you know that providing city services to residential property is a money-losing proposition? That it is only commercial development that subsidizes it? And that drawing investment downtown, where we already have a billion-dollar infrastructure is the safest possible investment? And as for your phrase, “potentially fail,” I suggest you consult with your colleagues in the business department or a public finance expert and actually measure the probability before making such a doom and gloom prediction? Lightning could strike you tonight, too, but that doesn’t make you hide in the cellar, does it?

TrogBlog: However, I do not believe that New Albany city government is in any position to be involved in the commercial end of this endeavor. Particularly when there are so many problems with our infrastructure, and a desperate need for code enforcement, along with many other issues that affect quality of life here.

New Albany is uniquely suited to undertake this enterprise. Without it and more like it, the crumbling infrastructure will continue to deteriorate. This administration has performed admirably and is the driving force for ordinance enforcement. It is your heroes on council who are blocking it.

TrogBlog: Speaking of code enforcement, since the Council passed the approval of the position and salary, we have made no apparent progress towards implementing the job. Are we still getting one? Or are we being told there’s no money?

It is your heroes who are blocking it.

TrogBlog: As for the Coffey Plan, I’m not so sure his plan would back this thing up all the way to zero’s. The city has already purchased land, and is in process of clearance and environmental cleanup. I believe that is a $1.5 million cost that has already been undertaken. The city plans to lease the cleared and cleaned land to the YMCA for $1 per year. One hell of a deal that would help any business get off to a good start (any hint of how to spawn more businesses?).

Yeah, Ms. Oates. Any hint? Dan Coffey knew in advance that the county was coming in. Once he saw that, he had no choice but to stake out a position on the extreme edge of reason. I’m sure Coffey is waiting by his phone for someone to offer him a deal in exchange for his vote. It ain’t gonna happen.

TrogBlog: Now, the Redevelopment Commission has received its first $1 million payment from Caesar’s, and I’m not sure if those funds were used towards this aspect of the project or not. If so, that would mean our current investment is nominal. I suggest we leave it that way.

The Redevelopment Commission is the agency permitted to accept private money. Once again, it is the city agency with only quasi-independence. You and your pals have elevated this to a vast conspiracy. Pick up the fucking phone and ask someone who KNOWS the law. How about your friend Anna?

TrogBlog: One question that is nagging at me is… if there is going to be a bond issue, how can the City Council vote on issuing bonds that will be tied to a Grant designated to the Redevelopment Commission and the YMCA, but not to the City?

See above. Your conspiracy theory fell apart days ago. Get over it. Caesars/Harrah’s agrees to make the donation to whichever entity undertakes the actual financing. And it will probably be the Building Authority. Unless, of course, they grow embarrassed to be associated with a city whose citizens are so disengaged from reality, as evidenced by the daily effluvia that leaks from your blog.

TrogBlog: I'm still digging for more on the original plans, and will hopefully have more details later this week.

And finally, this is about the tenth time you’ve ended a posting with this self-aggrandizing promise to bring us the truth. It grows tiresome. Don’t make promises you have no intention of keeping. Have you even been on the third floor of the City County Building since you launched your blog? That’s where the information is. All you have to do is ask for it. Unless, of course, you give reason to believe you are a danger to others.

Asteosis said...

I remain confused over why the parties on the opposite sides of this matter bother addressing each other in such a manner. I think that both blogs (this one and Speak out Loud) would both better serve their purpose if they stopped trading shots.

While reading the arguments from both sides are indeed amusing, they don't provide much beyond gladitorial style entertainment. I would much rather read the NAC pieces, then the Speak Out Loud pieces, and then form my own conclusions. I don't want to read 500 words on one site explaining (or ranting) why the other site is wrong.

I apologize for my forwardness in this matter, but I have seen too many well meaning sites and groups such as this fall away because they get tied up in conflict. I would like to see all New Albany-centric sites thrive, but if their pages start being more about each other than the issues at hand, then I am afraid that they will wither and fade.

All4Word said...

A well made point, Asteosis, and one worth taking notice of. Process questions can often bog down and turn off readers. I do think the restrictions placed on debate contribute to it, somewhat.

The New Albanian said...

Your forwardness is welcomed.

In fact, I've felt trepidation in pursuing such matters, and have continued to post responses like this for two reasons.

First, I believe that when it comes to topics like these civic issues, advocates are obliged to both support and defend their positions with fact-based argumentation, and to use fact-based argumentation to find weaknesses in the positions espoused by their opponents. Defense and offense are synonymous.

Second, owing to my view that the administrator of the other blog in question pursues an anti-free speech position contrary to the core belief of most adults in the community, it is my intention to provide counter-point (see the preceding paragraph) in a manner not capable of being presented there, precisely because the administrator continues to confuse opinion with fact – to the detriment of open discourse.

I will not apologize for seeking to further free speech in a place where it is cheapened by the lamentable lack of standards perpetuated by others. In like fashion, it is not my responsibility to “dumb down” for the benefit of those unwilling or incapable of putting forth the effort to learn.

Thanks, Asteosis. Your comments are articulate and appreciated, but in keeping with my policy of disclosure, I must ask you to introduce yourself in a private and confidential e-mail to me: roger@potablecurmudgeon.com.